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The number of ways 5 letter be put in 3 letter boxes A,B,C. If letter box A must contain at least 2 letters.

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I got the same but its wrong :/
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270 ???
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No its 131
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yes its 131..?
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kaise ?
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Please Discuss the Approach
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Why cant i write :-X1 + X2 + X3 = 5 and X1 >= 2

Assuming we have identical letters and different letter boxes
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@Na462 posted :) letters are different always unless they specify

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is answer 10?
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no, it is 131
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madeeasy's answer might be wrong
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x1+x2+x3=5

given condition is that one box contain at least 2 letters which is x1>=2

x1-2>=2-2

x1-2>=0

we can write 

x1-2+x2+x3=5

x1+x2+x3=7

using the concept of stars and bars we can determine 

||+||+|||=7

9c2=36

what is wrong in this ?

@Shaik Masthan @MiNiPanda

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@vijju532

It specifically mentioned box A has atleast 2 letters. Its not right to consider "one box".

Let the 5 letters be named as L1,L2,L3,L4,L5.

Case 1) Put 2 letters in A. Ways of choosing 2 letters from 5 is C(5,2).

No. of ways of putting remaining 3 letters into B and C is $2^3$.

Let A has L1 and L2. So remaining is L3 to L5.

L3 can go to B or C. 2 ways

L4 can go to B or C. 2 ways.

L5 can go to B or C. 2 ways.

So total cases here is $C(5,2)x2^3 =10*8=80$

Case 2)

Put 3 letters in A. Ways of choosing 3 letters from 5 is C(5,3).

No. of ways of putting remaining 2 letters into B and C is $2^2$.

So total cases here is $C(5,3)x2^2 =10*4=40$

Case 3)

Put 4 letters in A. Ways of choosing 4 letters from 5 is C(5,4).

No. of ways of putting remaining 1 letters into B and C is $2^1$.

So total cases here is $C(5,4)x2^1 =5*2=10$

Case 4)

Put 5 letters in A. Ways of choosing 5 letters from 5 is C(5,5).

No. of ways of putting remaining 5 letters into B and C is $2^0$.

So total cases here is $C(5,5)x2^0 =1*1=1$

Sum them up: 80+40+10+1=131

 

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can we use the concept of onto funtion ?
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@vijju532 I edited the comment. You can check it. Yes concept of on-to can be used.

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Another method

$3^{5}$ - ( {when box 1 contain only 1 letter } - {when box 1 contains 0 letter} )
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@Magma Can u please explain in more details. I am getting $3^5 - 2^4 - 2^5 = 195$

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 5 letters be put into 3 letter boxes A,B,C...

// means 5 different letters in 3 different boxes..

condition : letter box A contains at least 2 letters...

method 1:

required ways where letter box A has at least 2 letters= box A has 2 letters + box A has #letters + box A has 4 letters + box A has 5 letters

                         =5C2*2^3 + 5C3*2^2+5C4*2^1 +5C5

                        =80+40+10+1 =131 answer...

shortcut method:

required ways where letter box A has atleast 2 letters=total ways - at most one letter in box A

= total number of ways in which each letter can be assigned to any letter box - when letter box A has 1 letter - letter box A has no letter.

=> 3^5 - 5C1*2^4 - 5C0*2^5

=243- 5*16 - 32

=243-112 = 131 answer.... 

 

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@Magma kuch time pehle bhot disturb kie hai aise questions to never let the same mosquito bite you twice... :p

@Na462 thanks bro :)

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@ waah bhai....lgta hai iss baar tum hi top kroge!

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@himgta ni bro revision ni hopara dhang se aur test series v ni die acche se :/ work load bhot hai :/ 

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The answer depends on weather the letters are same or different. If the letters are same answer is 10, if different answer is 131.

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According to que 131 is the right answer.
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You mean $10$ is possible as well?
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Yes it is 10 if the letters are indistinguishable.
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correct answer is 10.

This problem belongs to combinations with repetitions. Try the examples from rosen's book

 

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